Gee it should not only be true also when elderly people attend a church dominated by young people but true for any people group of sinners that God brings to us by His providential Hands thru our church doors and our lives from single mothers to cultures or class etc
Watching my daughter Leilani playing house I had a gee are you serious moment which is:
Gee some christians play church like children playing house or action figures
With their knowledge and wisdom developing naturally and in some cases unnaturally within the stage of childhood leading into Adult hood…
Like christians still babes in the Lord depending on their wits playing church
Neglecting Gods owner Manual the Bible
For guidance structure order God pleasing
Of the church and worship
And playing the role s they imagine think a church is and who God is
Like modern day cain than Abel who led God direct his imagination in matters of worship,world and heaven.
Who followed only his imagination on how to please God and preferred
It that way…
Gee I wish my old church would take this to ❤️
Most church members don’t see their churches clearly.
In almost all of Thom S. Rainer’s consultations, church members perceive their church to be friendly. But as he surveyed guests, he found that the guests typically saw church members as unfriendly. The perception chasm existed because the members were indeed friendly . . . to one another.
The guests felt like they crashed a private party.
Gee the only time they would call when I was recovering from my kidney transplant (still am)was to assign wanda to help in kids school-not to ask how I was doing or show Christian charity and ask my wife if her and our Kid’s needed some type of support. And I knew they knew as well that they knew my condition when I emailed the pastor diplomatically.
It just taught me that a Idol is not only made in stone or people but they can be ministries programs,age groups,other groups we use to divide into or departments etc Reminds me of the parable of the Good Samaritan :
Luke 10:25-37 New International Version (NIV)
The Parable of the Good Samaritan
25 On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”
26 “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?”
27 He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’[a]; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b]”
28 “You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.”
29 But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?”
30 In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. 31 A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. 32 So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. 33 But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. 34 He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him. 35 The next day he took out two denarii[c] and gave them to the innkeeper. ‘Look after him,’ he said, ‘and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.’
36 “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”
37 The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.”
Jesus told him, “Go and do likewise.”
Gee nobody visited me at the hospital not even the deacon assigned to me and my family.who I do not even know they never contacted by any open channel from face to face to a simple letter or email.
Gee even know nobody has visit me nor had any type of communication with me from simple smoke signals to post-riders to a simple phone call to see how I am doing NADA its like the silence from doctor Who but in reverse a christianized hybrid it is not my choice not to be seen but theirs…
Gee I would understand if they were Gen Z kids and for some reason rotary phones were reintroduced replacing smartphones that I would understand:
Gee I never had a problem with a church I always made friends till now and becoming active using my God given gifts and experience.
I entered this church confident which later became hope and finally becoming hopelessness….it was like a Great Wall of China between us and the church tried to climb it nada,tried to go around it nada. I tried to enter thru the gate nada.
Till finally I just gave up now just going for these reasons:
-it is not good for Christians to be Lone Ranger Christians
We need a home church and I know there is no perfect church…If you are looking for it you are are like a modern day Ponce de Leon searching for the mythical fountain of Youth. You must find a church nonetheless that you can see the beauty and live with its particular thorns.
-I want to kids to know God while they are young
-ultimately to use my God given gifts,experience and the wisdom it flows with like a secret agent or like Asimov Foundation series(one of my favorite book series with lord of the rings and Thomas covenant)like hair seldon who saw the galactic empire will fall and to shorten the dark ages till a new one arose after developing psychohistory which if followed would do secretly had one group the Psychohistorians behind the scenes guiding the plan.
Gee it was so bad that when the pastor preached on Mary being on the outside margins of society,
And I said that’s how exactly how I feel as well as the visitors,strangers who did not fit the church mold ….
Who God will bring to our church sheep to be sheltered,feed,nurtured,clothed,protected and defended….
“On the margins unnoticed outside,a ghost
Neglected Ignored unvalued strangers ambiguous invisible a Galilean, Jew a second class christain ,a Samaritan and no good can come from Nazareth…
Gee now taking my own advice I must be a Moses to lead my people-my family to the promised land-where I can see both the beauty of the church and its thorns that both mars it’s beauty and adds to it……
Gee reminds me of this verse from Poison aptly named:
Every rose has its thorn
Just like every night has its dawn
Just like every cowboy sings his sad, sad song
Every rose has its thorn
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. MLK
Gee the rush to tweet,Facebook and utilize social media Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
reminds me of this Wiley coyote road runner clip. When Roadrunner speed leaves Wiley coyote in the dust-similar to the social mob(from the rich to the famous to the common person)
leaving behind moral reasoning,logic,presumption of innocence,good old common sense, and hearing both sides of the story before passing judgement and mindlessly all but ready to pull the verbal gun and kill person or persons with words….
Proverbs 4:23 Keep your heart with all diligence, for out of it is the wellspring of life. (WEB NIV)
Proverbs 16:22 Understanding is a wellspring of life unto him that hath it: but the instruction of fools is folly. (KJV)
Proverbs 18:4 The words of a man’s mouth are as deep waters, and the wellspring of wisdom as a flowing brook. (KJV ASV)
and then be full of so much pride,arrogance and lack repentance to not only issue a apology but continue in utter blind foolishness dressed as court jesters to justify oneself and hiding behind their false doctrine where Real truth is disregarded for lies- Senseless Anger and baseless rage and emotional outbursts expected from a young infant and directing at a imaginary incident with no foundation in reality or fact but a spin control presented by the groupthinks Big Brother, Pope to present its type of crucify! Crucify! Of their latest Jesus or sacrificial Lamb(s)or other delusional events a narrative for their followers embrace as Dogma…or narratives of group Truth- lies that a group embraces as their no questioning inerrant biblical Truth their group ex cathedra pope like a modern version of George Orwell 1984:
… with you have your truth but we have our truth is their illogical motto
is if this not ultimate proof of the biblical doctrine of (all of us )as natural born sinners nothing then is…
Reminds me of another MLK quote: I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.
Today people are not only judged by the color of their skin only but by labels Or logos protected by the first amendment to determine the content of their character…let me give you person examples of each:
First me and my friend dressed in Sunday clothes in a midtown NYC church got in a elevator to go to Sunday school class and two white old ladies as soon as they saw us a Hispanic and a black African American in obvious motion clutch their purses closer to their chest….
Lastly years ago in a college bible club one of the students labeling me a Calvinist (I prefer evangelical) was constantly challenging me not based on the word like the acts Berans but on baseless personal biases…
Now these Jews were more noble than those in Thessalonica; they received the word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so.
Gee Are you serious moment
Came to me while watching the world view of thinking biblically a
A comedy world view of a Christian living biblically points
1.the writers are definitely not Christian (unfortunately when the world is describing that’s how they topically see and portray us under the guidance and hatred and resentment of sin)
2. At best they are more experts on American Church brand of Christianity or the worlds caricature of what a Christian is
3.their view of thinking biblically is far from the biblical view and is more a childish and immature literal view not taking to account
The Bible’s purpose for the Christian and unbelievers
The Bible’s infallibility
The Bible’s inspiration
the bible self witness
The Bible Clarity
The Bible time tested testimony
The Bible’s Old Testament history is fulfilled and interpreted in the New Testament
The cultural background
The clear portions of scripture to clear the unclear or vague
Proper interpretation does not isolated related scriptures but looks at all the scriptures on any given subject and are looked as a whole for a proper interpretation
It is so beautiful and is both telling,witness and testimony when babies find themselves so safe and comfortable in your presence or a place(like church)to fall asleep🌈….
It is a portrait of christains in the midsts of lifes up and downs,sunny days,cloudy days and rainy days secure in Christ’s redeeming,gracious ,loving and everything else saving presence that only believers can experience first here on earth ( and is a foretaste of mheaven here on earth and the future reality )and then heaven….psalms 4:8,121:3 and 91:1-5
I always complained about not seeing:
Dora the play with my kids or not seeing
Hamilton with my wife
Ironic isn’t ????
Hispanics not able to see a character that is Hispanic or a play written by a fellow Hispanic who happens to be a creative genius
Not seeing one or the other
Priced beyond our range
Then my gee moment came when I started to ponder:
What if the bible was priced beyond our price range- a luxury like Disneyland You have to save for years till you and your family can enjoy it….
How would react???
Will it be this way:
I read somewhere how a Puritan of old preached a sermon imitating God who was so upset with that congregations neglect ,apathy ,and indifference to His word-that the old puritan made several motions imitating God taking the Bible in deed and word threat to take His bible away from His people and each time then imitated his churchthe congregation brought to tears implored begged God please do not take your scriptures away from us-we will now always cherish and mine daily all its inexhaustible hidden treasures etc
Here it is I found it:
A great Puritan evangelist, John Rogers, warned his congregation against neglecting Scripture by telling them what God might say: “I have trusted you so long with my Bible … it lies in [some] houses all covered with dust and cobwebs, you care not to listen to it. Do you use my Bible so? Well, you shall have my Bible no longer.”
Rogers then picked up his Bible and started walking away from the pulpit. Then he stopped, fell on his knees, and took on the voice of the people, who pleaded, “Lord, whatever Thou dost to us, take not Thy Bible from us; kill our children, burn our houses, destroy our goods; only spare us Thy Bible, take not away Thy Bible.”
“Say you so?” the minister replied, impersonating God. “Well, I will try you a while longer; and here is my Bible for you. I will see how you use it, whether you will search it more, love it more, observe it more, and live more according to it.”
Thomas Goodwin was so moved by Rogers’s dramatic presentation that when he left church he wept upon his horse’s neck for fifteen minutes before he felt strong enough to mount it.
Psa 19:10 KJV – 10 More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
It is well-known that Puritans were lovers of the Word of God. They were not content with the bare affirmation of the infallibility, inerrancy, and authority of Scripture. They read, searched, sang, and heard the Word with delight, always seeking for and relishing the applying power of the Holy Spirit accompanying the Word. They regarded the sixty-six books of Holy Scripture as the library of the Holy Spirit graciously given to them. For the Puritan, Scripture is God speaking to us, as a father speaks to his children. In Scripture God gives us His Word as both a word of truth and a word of power. As a word of truth, we can trust in and rest our all upon Scripture for time and eternity. As a word of power, we can look to Scripture as the source of trans- formation used by the Spirit of God to renew our minds.
Scripture teaches us that the Word of God must not only be read publicly in worship (Acts 15:21; 1 Tim. 4:13), but also serves as a blessing when personally read, heard, and obeyed. “Blessed is he who reads, and those who hear the words of the prophecy, and heed the things which are writ-
ten in it” (Rev. 1:3).
(To the puritans who can teach us bible study and bible reading and everything in between was no practice to play bible charades ,biblenopoly ,bible trivia engaged with other believers in gospel conference where they discussed means of applying what they were learning in the Bible to every facet in life..)
Or continue still in your neglect,apathy,indifference and laziness:
There are times when solitude is better than society, and silence is wiser than speech. We should be better Christians if we were more alone, waiting upon God, and gathering through meditation on His Word spiritual strength for labour in his service. We ought to muse upon the things of God, because we thus get the real nutriment out of them. . . . Why is it that some Christians, although they hear many sermons, make but slow advances in the divine life? Because they neglect their closets, and do not thoughtfully meditate on God’s Word. They love the wheat, but they do not grind it; they would have the corn, but they will not go forth into the fields to gather it; the fruit hangs upon the tree, but they will not pluck it; the water flows at their feet, but they will not stoop to drink it. From such folly deliver us, O Lord. . . .”― Charles H. Spurgeon